#maya and chioma

[thorough-witness-enjoyer]

Bungie will create a wlw couple and go “Everyone attached to them yet? Good, good… roll in the horrors and unbearable grief! At least one of them cannot make it out of this situation! GO, GO, GO!”

[fishuus]

i only want the one that is real.

[theforsakenprince]

the maya and osiris parallels continue to fuck me up. Both of them reaching across timelines to save their partners and while Maya won't stop until she finds the right Chioma, the perfect one that will agree with her vision for the universe, the "real" Chioma, and will throw away any version of her that isn't perfect, Osiris broke time for the chance to save Saint-14, and it didn't matter to him which Saint it was, because to him they're all the "real" Saint

[eiramew]

It's been so long between the words we spoke Will you be there up on the shore, I hope

[thefirstknife]

Hey. Y'all. Okay.

It's them.

Instant gut punch the moment you start this act. I've finished the exotic mission but I need to run it again and then I'll be normal (lie).

[erismornsgf]

I will find our Golden Age. Our perfect future. Yours and mine.

Destiny 2: Echoes - Act III Opening Cinematic

[loreleywrites]

What I love about Maya Sundaresh/Chioma Esi is that their marriage has festered to a level of toxic yuri I'd expect from an indie VN made by a depressed transbian, except it's in a AAA shooter. This is the highest compliment I can give to Destiny 2's narrative team.

[telestoapologist]

im gonna throw up

[fandom-geek]

love how the lore after this week's radio broadcast was basically "maya sundaresh needs her emotional support wife not to go batshit insane with ambition/power while in the vex network" and "maya made her wife a flesh mask as a token of love" and also "any non-chioma paired mayas will start dissecting chioma for fun. as you do."

[synnthamonsugar]

💖🧡💛Happy Pride! 💚💙💜

Wanted to make a fun tribute to the queer girls of Destiny, and thought now would be a good time. As someone who's sapphic and outside norms of romance & gender in some ways, the range of queer women's representation in this game, and the sorts of relationships that exist between women has brought me joy and is something I always want more of. This is my way of contributing and I hope it brings you joy too. :)

[rogueofart]

"Get it all out. When you're done, I have some questions."

- Polyphony - VI. Glass House Own interpretation of The Conductor working on a frame for "her Chioma".

[boltlightning]

every time i think i'm over destiny for making me do the same 4 chores on repeat with no challenge or worth, it hits me with a story that's like "what if your one true love died and you reached through time to find the timeline where they survive, so they can stand at your side again? what if someone else did that in reverse, tearing down the universe to CREATE the timeline where their love survives, destroying themselves and their love in endless universes? what would you do for love, and at what point does it change you?" and yeah i have to explore that story by doing the same 4 chores on repeat somehow

[gil-notskajla]

im sucker for ultimately happy endings no matter how dark the middle was but that.. that was a possibility. Still, that was gut-wrenching.

In a way it kinda is a happy ending i guess(?). She retreated and ceased activity for now, so other iterations are at least temporarily safe. If there are any left. But man...........

This ending sucks!!! (/not really negative). Its an absolute tragedy. No recovering from that! Yes your wife is dead because in search for a delusion you killed her!! And didnt even realise. She wasnt even surprised, just dissapointed. And you can never fix this. You made a choice, a mistake which cannot be unmade and path to it was equally as bloody as the deed itself.

[eiramew]

Chioma & Maya headcanons through the years + bonus hug

[thefirstknife]

So this week, huh. Some stuff and things.

The beginning is nice for a sort of official summary about what we're dealing with:

Paired with the lore tab from last week, now I think we know exactly what's going on in regards with the issue of understanding how the Conductor came to be. It's also interesting how they're not directly telling us which Maya turned into the Conductor, which is as we suspected before. We just don't know which one it is, maybe even a combination of multiple Mayas. And they're going with Maya maybe not knowing either.

I love Saint. He's so excited.

More under:

The exotic mission is largely the same, but there are some extras: new areas and new chests with a bit of new dialogue. I'll get to that in a moment. I want to mention something I didn't bring up last week, but the Subjugator and the Tormentor bosses are pledged to Yirix. This week, Ikora expands:

Yirix is a Psion and leads the Conclave, a section of Psions that does all sort of stuff. She's responsible for the attempt on Zavala's life back in Chosen when they used Light-suppressing tech to temporarily disable Targe. She also had her hand in the Presage shenanigans and then later Vox Obscura mission on Mars where we fought her Psions and Caiatl listened to the various futures she's seen, all of which have come true. It's interesting that she's leading some section of the Shadow Legion. I am hoping for this Psion stuff to be some sort of hint about stuff in the future. We might eventually have to deal with them.

And then! The lines from grabbing the new chest for this week:

Once again, back with the simulated Ishtar scientists! And once again, I am begging everyone to read Aspect. We've heard from .59 Chioma last week, that's the one from the final part of this page, a Chioma that has lost Maya.

You'd found a simulation with a city where you discovered a jewelry store, picked out a necklace, brought it home to her, and wished her a happy pseudo anniversary. Maya didn't like bracelets, said they always fouled her work. Her hair had been getting shaggy again and was due for a trim. She could never decide whether or not to grow it out. She laughed at you lifting weights to maintain simulated muscle, but she spotted for you all the same. There are other Mayas out there, layers of them, all the way up to the original, wherever she is. You hope they're doing well. But that doesn't stop you from missing this Maya, missing whatever arguments and discoveries you'd have shared in the rest of the lifetime you'd promised to one another. Shim and Duane-McNiadh pull you up from beside Maya's marker. A basalt lily rests on top of it, petals thin enough to let light through. You go on.

The same page also mentions the .33 group:

227.33 You lose Duane-McNiadh.

We don't know .27 group from Aspect. Also interesting that one of the Chiomas isn't sharing her number. I wonder what's up with that. I'm also not sure what the final two sentences would be about. About them having "a place" and figuring things out together. The whole point of Aspect was that these groups were coordinating with Praedyth about escaping, so maybe they're talking about this plan they had with him?

Next thing in the line is Maya's recording of once again messing with Chioma and this one is so normal (lie).

OKAY? How about we all die. This also connects to one of the queries in Enigma Protocol. We speculated that these might be some personal stuff for Maya and Chioma that she's search for through the Vex Network and they are!

And then new lines from the new chest puzzle:

More stuff about the simulated scientists! Same as last week, .97 are also in Aspect. Eagerly waiting to see where they'll end with this. Literally have been waiting since 2019 to get answers about Aspect. Please. Answers please.

As we get through the mission, we get treated to some devastating Osiris and Saint lines. I really like that they have quite a bit of sympathy for what's happening to Maya and Chioma. Because they relate!

On the floor. But we're not done.

Stoppp ittt. Stopppp.

I like, again, that despite everything, he seems to sympathise. Or at least he understand it because he knows how he could've ended the same so Maya didn't do this because Maya is just like that; she did this because of the circumstances. If the circumstances were any different, Osiris could've done it too. This terrifies him. Anyone could be one step away from doing the same.

The radio message continues with the horrors, with another one of Maya's logs where she's insisting that her Chioma would understand what she's doing and that Maya is a "savior" and that everything that happened in the system since the Collapse needs to be fixed and that Maya can fix it. Osiris goes on a rant against this and realises that Maya is acting selfishly and that her obsession is destroying even her love for Chioma. But at the end, he says this:

Please. I hope we do. I want this to have at least a semblance of a happy ending for Maya and Chioma. Maybe not for the Conductor ofc, but for some Maya somewhere to get what she wanted; to be with her Chioma. Kinda similar how they went about with Saint and Osiris as well, to complete the parallel between the two couples.

And then ofc the lore tab.

One more week to go. Going to be blowing myself up in the meantime.

[macgyvertape]

Not thinking too hard about the details of how it would work, but I do wonder if the Conductor!Maya would be (eventually) happy with a alternate universe version of Chioma where realities changed enough that there was a Chioma out there kidnapping, torturing, and killing different versions of Maya.

Anyway this season has made me nostalgic for Star Trek/Stargate what if good character was evil in an alternate timeline/dimension.